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  The ineffectiveness of the Watchtower Society preaching work

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?

  congregations.

  119,954. members.

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  How can the Watchtower Society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of Watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the Pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?

  Congregations	119,954
  Members	8,579,909

  JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  
  

  
  

  Comprising over 700 denominations and a large number of independent churches, there is no central authority governing Pentecostalism; however, many denominations are affiliated with the Pentecostal World Fellowship. There are over 279 million Pentecostals worldwide, and the movement is growing in many parts of the world, especially the global South.
  

  
  
  
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  Qualifying For A Kingdom Hall Funeral

  by minimus in

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  one of the most despicable things i can remember is having the elders determining whether or not you “qualified” for proper funeral services in a kingdom hall and if the talk could be given by an elder.

  people are hurting terribly and the family is then told, even though the deceased was a member of the congregation, they still weren’t good enough to qualify for proper burial services per the congregation!

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  One of the most despicable things I can remember is having the elders determining whether or not you “qualified” for proper funeral services in a Kingdom Hall and if the talk could be given by an elder.

  Minimus...Can you tell us what the elders would talk about on who would qualify and who wouldn't?

  What made a good candidate/bad candidate?
  
  
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  Fearmongering : The greatest ploy the Watchtower Society uses against its faithful members

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  "shortly, within our twentieth century*, the "battle in the day of jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of jerusalem, christendom.

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  fearmongering or scaremongering is the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors of impending danger or the habit or tactic of purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.

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  BLONDIE: Isn't Morris the one that said he was in Vietnam during the war? Did he go in battle or was he a pencil pusher?

  
  

  
  
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  Fearmongering : The greatest ploy the Watchtower Society uses against its faithful members

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  "shortly, within our twentieth century*, the "battle in the day of jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of jerusalem, christendom.

  " (the nations shall know that i am jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.

  fearmongering or scaremongering is the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors of impending danger or the habit or tactic of purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.

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  Tameria2001

  Thank you for the video!

  Tony Morris looks very nervous, has shaky hands, looks lost, and doesn't look confident in what he is saying. I think Mr. Anthony Morris is just going through the motions. He knows that Armageddon is never going to happen. Living out the rest of his life in Warwick, New York headquarters is the only thing that is truly going to happen.

  
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  Fearmongering : The greatest ploy the Watchtower Society uses against its faithful members

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  "shortly, within our twentieth century*, the "battle in the day of jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of jerusalem, christendom.

  " (the nations shall know that i am jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.

  fearmongering or scaremongering is the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors of impending danger or the habit or tactic of purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.

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  "Shortly, WITHIN OUR TWENTIETH CENTURY*, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."
  (The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.; p. 216)
  

  

  

  Fearmongering or scaremongering is the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors of impending danger or the habit or tactic of purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.

  
  

  When I was a teen in 1973, my first congregation ''book study'' was ''The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah.'' The book was rather bizarre.... mostly made up fearmongering and exaggerations taken from the book of Ezekiel. The book was about flaming swords, riding chariots, death, birds eating all the dead, the burial of all the bones after Armageddon, and the attack from United Nations against the ''true'' religion, Jehovah's Witnesses.

  That was a really frightening read. I told myself, ''I better get baptized or I'll be one of the dead when Armageddon arrives.''

  Forty-five later, not one thing has ever come true from this book or any other material ever written by the WTBTS.

  Is ''fearmongering'' the greatest ploy the Watchtower Society use against its members and newly converted?

  
  
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  More Watchtower Property For Sale!

  by Atlantis in

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  if this is old news then just scrap it.. .

  looks like more watchtower property is for sale.. .

  https://www.matele.be/bioul-le-centre-des-temoins-de-jehovah-a-vendre.

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  There will be no more Jehovah's Witnesses gatherings in Bioul. The huge property located at the end of the village is for sale for 1.9 million euros.

  According to our colleagues from La Meuse, the huge property has been on sale for six months and unused for a year. The places, located at the exit of the village of Bioul, are as atypical as the activities that were organized there. The center could indeed accommodate several hundred Jehovah during its large assemblies thanks to its four multipurpose rooms, the largest of which could accommodate up to 1,000 people.

  On the site of the real estate agency Trevi Cinecan, responsible for the sale, describes a " real estate complex in perfect condition, consisting of several multipurpose rooms, studios and apartments and a large storage area and workshops in sub ground. "

  Parking included, the total land area is 1.75 hectare. The property is on sale for the sum of 1, 9 million euros.

  The building belonged to the "Congregation" for more than 30 years, but was less and less busy in recent years. Hence the decision to separate from the good.
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  New Boy only 3 weeks out, My Dedication

  by new boy in

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  this book is dedicated to james olson and robert stillman and the millions of other people, who have been victims of religious abuse.

  this book is dedicated to the thousands of people who have lost their parents, children and families members by way of the cruel practice of shunning.

  this book is for the thousands of suicide victims, people who could not live with the guilt and shame that the jehovah’s witnesses thought system has created for them.

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  What is the price?

  How many chapters and pages?

  Can you name some chapters?

  How long did it take to write and how many book publishers declined to publish?

  Did you learn anything new by collecting data and information?
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  The awful treatment of my disfellowshipped cousin still continues

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.

  he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.

  the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.

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  I have to ask, how old was the cousin when he was baptized?

  He was 16 years old when he was baptized. His dad was an Elder.

  Is his grandmother a JW? Is she willing to see him?

  Yes! His grandmother ( my aunt) is a baptized member. Her husband ( my uncle ) was an Elder. He passed away years ago. ( I posted about my cousin's hospital visit when his grandfather was dying).

  Terrible conduct by congregation Elders in hospital room !

  
  

  My uncle was an Elder for 50 years. He was warned numerous times that he was not to have house visits from his disfellowshipped grandson. He was even threatened with removal as an Elder from the 800-pound gorilla- self-righteous Elder if he continued to see grandson.

  My aunt has not seen her grandson in years after the threats to her husband and probably will never see her great-granddaughter.

  My cousin's dad just sent him a baby gift with a card. He only addressed the card to my cousin's wife and granddaughter. For some stupid reason, he can't even write his son's name on the card to congratulate him.
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  The awful treatment of my disfellowshipped cousin still continues

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.

  he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.

  the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.

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  ToesUp

  Because of the shunning that WT promotes and the drones follow

  Here is more of the shunning treatment my cousin has had to endure after his mom (my first cousin) passed away 10 years ago.

  * He was made to leave the house and return later that night after his mother died because Jehovah's Witness relatives were coming over to the house to visit the family.
  

  * He was told to stand on the side of his mom's casket, while the rest of the family sat in the first row chairs.

  *He was told not to attend the luncheon after the funeral. He left and went home because some members would not attend the luncheon if he was present. I listened in when the Elder told him to leave the luncheon. He was made to leave because it would make all Jehovah's Witnesses uncomfortable with his presence. I was so upset on the way he was being treated I left also.

  The torture of shunning and treatment has never stopped for my cousin.
  
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  The awful treatment of my disfellowshipped cousin still continues

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.

  he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.

  the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.

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  Here is a post about the same cousin at his grandfather's hospital visit 7 years ago.

  
  

  Terrible conduct by congregation Elders in hospital room !

  
  

  My uncle was rushed to the hospital last Tuesday with severe stomach pain. (He was diagnosed with colon cancer one year ago. The doctors, family,and my uncle decided against colon surgery. They felt that at the age of 86 he would not survive the surgery.)

  The doctors told the family that he had less than two days to live and to call the rest of the family and spend the remaining time with him at the hospital.

  The family called my uncle's grandson to inform him that his grandfather had less than two days to live. He was disfellowshipped ten years ago and was treated like a leper since. He really loved his grandfather. This is what happened at the hospital:

  My disfellowshipped cousin,his girlfriend and immediate family are all in the hospital room with his grandfather( who is heavily medicated but seems to recognize everyone.) I'm in the lounge area with other family members taking turns visiting. The elevators open and three Elders from his congregation come to visit and spend the remaining moments with my uncle.

  The Elders walk in the hospital room and see that my disfellowshipped cousin is in the room and decide not to greet him. They talk to my uncle and the immediate family in the room for over twenty minutes and decide to offer a prayer.

  They tell my cousin to please leave the room. His girlfriend says to the Elders,"Why should he leave the room? That's his grandfather." They tell her that this is a ''spiritual matter'' and that he has to leave the room. My cousin walks out and proceeds to tell me what just happened.

  I guess the self-righteous Elders felt that if he was in the room the prayer would never be heard by Jehovah or the holy spirit would be blocked! What terrible conduct by the Elders and the WTS!